August 28, 2005
I'll bite your legs off!
by Jeff Langstraat
In the comments to my post on the joy of watching a good ass-whomping, one of the victims pays us a visit. I feel so special! William Gibbons stopped by to let us know that, really, he's not getting his ass handed to him. He's the one doing damage. I'll let readers decide for themselves. See the links below.
The kerfuffle between Gibbons and Ed Brayton appears to have started with Brayton's post about some of the movers and shakers of the Creationist movement. Of particular interest is our new friend:
William J. Gibbons' bio says he holds a "Ph.D., in Creation Science Apologetics summa cum laude, Emmanuel College of Christian Studies, Springdale, Arkansas." Wow, a PhD in Creation Science Apologetics? And summa cum laude! One has to wonder what separates a summa cum laude graduate from a run of the mill graduate? This college has the sheer chutzpah to name their graduate school after Cambridge! All you need to know about the academic rigor of this university can be found in their statement of philosophy and objectives. Just look at the astonishingly hackneyed grammar of this little gem:It has long been the postulate of Cambridge Graduate School that a graduate degree need not reflect na?vet? regarding the practicalities of theology. Rather, masters and doctoral degrees ought simultaneously to reflect practicality and scholasticity.Cambridge Graduate School was founded in 1987 with the concept of blending these two inexpendibles.
Wow. I'll take People Trying Really Hard to Sound Sophisticated for $1000, Alex. But Gibbons' bio gets even better. Under "special achievements", he actually lists "Conducted four expeditions to central Africa in search of Mokele-mbembe, believed to be a living sauropod dinosaur." That's roughly equivalent to listing "went camping 4 times to look for bigfoot" or "followed a rainbow 4 times to find the leprauchan and his pot of gold" as a special achievement. Oh, and he wrote a book with the uber-fraud, Kent Hovind. That doesn't exactly help one's credibility.
Here's what the esteemed gentleman had to say in our comments, at least the substantive parts (with my own responses):
Ed Brayton is not winning this debate, I assure you.
See below. You can read the debates and judge for yourselves.
He is clever with words, and even better at twisting the words of others.
He's so clever with words that he's able to make cogent points and combine them into coherent arguments which show your words to be void of content.
Name calling seems to be a specialty of his too.
Never let it be said I don't have the same specialty, you silly twit. Calling you such things as a hack or fraud, though, wouldn't be name calling. It would be an accurate assessment of the evidence.
But does this surprise me?
I dunno, does it?
I have challenged him repeatedly to a face-to-face debate on creation evolution at a venue of his choice anywhere in the USA. He has declined of course, because he lacks the intestinal fortitude to face me personally like most people of his ilk.
This is my favorite. What's the point of a face-to-face debate? Much more material can be dealt with in writing, creating a more vigorous debate without the time constraints inherent in face-to-face debates. Indeed, the sort of written debate occuring on Dispatches from the Culture Wars would seem to be a much more fruitful route. [Update: Ed Brayton stopped by the post below to provide his own reasons for refusing a face-to-face debate.]
Oh, I get it. This is one of those cock-size things. If Gibbons can get Brayton in a room, engage in his usual nonsense, ignore the complexity of actual evolutionary theory, and claim victory, it will prove he's got a bigger dick...or at least more guts.
Meaningless posturing.
I haven't even started to answer his ridiculous charges against me in the next round. But not to worry, we'll get there.
Better hurry.
It will be interesting to see if you post MY answers to Mr. Brayton, but I'm not holding my breath.
Now why would I want to post the incoherent ramblings of an anti-intellectual, anti-science, fraud? It's probably best if you don't hold your breath.
Never let it be said that I don't give the readers information, though. Below you can find the dismemberment of Gibbons in all it's glory:
Part 1. 'Tis but a scratch.
Part 2 Just a flesh wound.
Part 3. I'm Invincible!
Part 4. Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!
Part 4A
So, folks, there's the debate I'm aware of. The only thing Gibbons seems to have demonstrated is his tenacity.
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