August 30, 2005
Progressive Bloggers against Roberts? Feminist Bloggers against Bloggers? or Progressive Feminist bloggers for Choice?
by Liza Sabater
Over at Feministe » No Blog Indispensable, Lauren blogged in two sentences her dislike, if not abject dislike for assholish comments involving burkas.
Now, I've been thinking long and hard about this chasm between the "machos" and the "istas" in the progressive movement. And I got to thinking about 'framing'.
DailyKos is the biggest political --in any category-- at the moment. So is, as a party, the Republican party. One of the biggest criticisms lobbed to the left in this country is about how we have left the right frame the issues. Well, so have feminist failed at this and doubly, because we have left it up to the fundies AND the machos of the left to frame the issues.
So here is our opportunity to work together. John Roberts first 15 minutes of "live from Capitol Hill" fame will start on Monday of next week. Let's make sure we have a statement, all 500+ feminist bloggers out there, stating what we want from the Democrats. And yes, I think we should invite men to sign it as well. Most definitely.
I think we banged out a good set of talking points after the NARAL discussion that we should all use as a springboard to our open letter :
(1) A campaign to push for state rights; to ensure choice is in the laws of each and every state.
(2) Demand iron-clad party discipline with a continuous blue sea of NOs against Roberts appointment.
(3) Keep reminding people 52% of Americans support Roe V. Wade
(4) Make the right to privacy the foundation for choice.
Lauren and Amanda have said YES to this. Who else is in?
Posted by Liza Sabater in Activism, Feminism, Media, SCOTUS, Supreme Court
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Comment by: media girl at August 30, 2005 09:33 PM
I'm with you, except about focusing on privacy. (I've said why I think so here, which cites this post, which in turn has other links to elsewheres, including the Supreme Court opinions on the Casey case.)
A blog swarm is a great idea. But do we do it on Monday or Tuesday? We might want this to happen before they convene, yes? (They won't have hearings on Labor Day, will they?)
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Comment by: media girl at August 30, 2005 09:34 PM
I'm with you, except about focusing on privacy. (I've said why I think so here, which cites this post, which in turn has other links to elsewheres.)
A blog swarm is a great idea. But when? On Monday or Tuesday? We might want this to happen before they convene, yes? (They won't do it on Labor Day, will they?)
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Comment by: media girl at August 30, 2005 09:37 PM
I'm surprised to see my comment up. I kept getting comment template errors. fyi....
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Comment by: liza at August 30, 2005 09:47 PM
That's because I have it set up to "error" comments with a certain amount of links, but what it really does is put the comment in moderation. This site, on a bad day, was getting 500 spam comments a day. I'm in the middle of my night shift, so I got the email sooner than later. :)
We definitely need to do a swarm. I need to read your article; but will say one thing : Privacy encompasses more than just a women's reproductive rights. If it is an issue with legal language, then yeah, let's iron that one out. Maybe we can convey the message without having to say it. But he's part of Santorum's camp who basically do not believe PRIVACY is a right in the constitution. How can we address this head on, that he has written detail articles about this in the past, without using the fundies' frame and weakening our cause?
BTW, should we wiki this or listserv it? I can have a listserv up and running in about 3 hours.
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Comment by: Lauren at August 31, 2005 04:00 PM
I think framing it as a privacy AND liberty issue will be most effective.
Let's go with listserv as I'm still unclear on how to modify a wiki and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Comment by: Jeff at August 31, 2005 05:47 PM
I'd agree with Lauren. The right to privacy is bound up in Liberty rights. We should ask them at every opportunity, What does the right to liberty include? What does it exclude? What is liberty if control over our own bodies and decisions about with whom we will have sex aren't included in it?
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Comment by: Morgaine Swann at August 31, 2005 08:23 PM
I agree with those four items, but it doesn't go far enough, and it leaves those of us in red states with no hope at all.
Here's the situation: The Dem's may or may not win with us, but they absolutely cannot win without us. That's the key to the situation and it would be foolish of us to let them continue to take advantage of us.
Solidarity is our only choice - we need to boycott Kos, demand that our rights be protected unequivocally, and remind everyone that rights not enumerated in the Constitution are specifically reserved to the people. If the Right to privacy isn't listed or limited therein, it is reserved to us. I haven't heard anyone mention this yet.
Why are we letting this sexist creep benefit from our time, attention and work? Why are we acting like we don't count - we're the majority!
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Comment by: Stephanie at September 1, 2005 06:02 PM
This is a great idea.
I agree with Lauren re: privacy AND liberty. Human rights too.
And I agree with Morgaine about boycotting Kos and demanding that Democrats serve us better. If they're not going to fully support us, I'm not willing to support them.
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Comment by: artemisia at September 2, 2005 06:49 PM
i'm in. and i strongly support mediagirl's liberty argument.
and if you want to see who we're up against, check out bayprairie's post at Our Word: These politicians are your Health Care Providers
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Comment by: CE Petro at September 4, 2005 12:20 PM
I also agree with Lauren that this is a privacy AND liberty issue. I agree with the rest, except I think it necessary to note my concerns on states rights.
The states rights thing is tougher for those of us in red states. In TN, some misogynist asshole (the author of the amendment changed from the last time it was introduced) has a state constitution amendment stating that no woman has the right to an abortion -- there is NO health, rape or incest exception (there is a companion amendment with the exxceptions should the first not gain enough support). This has been submitted before and failed (narrowly), this past year it was removed from the legislative agenda until 2006, for political reasons. I know that TN isn't the only state like this.
Also take into consideration that the NYTimes today, has an article on TN judges in Shelby county refusing to hear judical bypass cases on "moral" grounds.
I think it comes down to trying to make abortion rights a states rights issue will be just as much of an uphill battle for women in red states as it is at the federal level. I'm afraid that pushing this will conceivably cause more damage than good for many women in red states.


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Comment by: Shelley at August 30, 2005 07:17 PM