mole333's picture

Wow

You never miss a chance to repeat Republican lies, do you? And I notice you never, ever, ever address the responses people have refuting your lies. Why is that? Do we take you beyond your script?

First off, Nixon specifically claimed what he was doing was in the interest of national security. The claim was rejected. Bush makes the same claim. Doesn't mean it has to be accepted. The situations are eerily similar. Strike one, Mr. Republican Talking Point.

Even if it is claimed that it is national security, it is STILL illegal. Truman found that out when he tried to take over steel mills during the Korean war, claiming national security. The Supreme Court rejected the claim that "national security" was adequate to suspend the Constitution. Also keep in mind that there is a LEGAL, court based mechanism IN PLACE since 1978 that allows a President to keep his little secrets, get a court's approval AND he can even get said approval up to 72 hours after issuing the wire tap order. But Bush insisted on breaking the law. Strike two, Mr. Republican Talking Point.

Finally, your claims are contrary to those of Ms. Holtzman...who was there when Nixon was impeached. She was one of the Reps. who investigated and outlined the case. She considers it a nearly identical situation. Seems to me she is far more of an expert than you, isn't she? Strike three, Mr. Republican Talking Point. Once again your statements relfect nothing but your own blindness to the law and to common sense.

One final point. Do you call yourself a "conservative" or a "Republican?" Because there is nothing either conservative nor traditional Republican about Bush's violations of the Constitution. To me your defense of Bush's violations of the rights of American citizens is distinctly unAmerican. You might be happier in North Korea or Saudi Arabia than in America.


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