To Peter Daou and the DailyKos crowd, there are no black bloggers in New York City or Harlem

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I honestly do not know what to make of this.

These are the 20 liberal bloggers that met with Bill Clinton in Harlem. As you can see, not one of them is black or latino.


Via Republic of T.

This photo proves that It's official : Hillary to run for President, so she kills the Liberal Blogosphere first.

I am just shocked at the glee with which Peter Daou has shown his disrespect for Pam Spaulding, Steve Gilliard, Louis Pagan, Chris Rabb, Earl Dunovant and me when he decided to not invite neither of us, or for that matter, any other black or latino bloggers.

Yes, Steve Gilliard, Pam Spaulding, and me have been vocal about Hillary's run for the presidency. You'd think though our opinions would be given the weight they deserve within the blogosphere itself --let's not even talk about the Clintonites or Washington.

Which is why I stand by what I said : In order for Hillary Clinton to run for president, she will do anything and everything to squash the voices of dissent raised through the progressive netroots. Stuffing their faces with lunch is one tasty way to go about it.

The more pressing question remains :

What does it mean though that there are 20 bloggers invited to this lunch and not one is black or latino? What does it mean for this group of bloggers to be patting themselves on the backs for being with Clinton when they are all in Harlem and not one of them is a person of color? What does it mean for these people to be there and have not one of them raise this issue in their blogs?

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When I wrote Jane Hamsher is an idiot, Barbara O'Brien scolded me for calling out this white woman's antics in the name of the black people of Connecticut. I was insulted, as so other black bloggers, for the arrogance of the act. Given how priviledged she was by having the time, money and access to blog the Lamont campaign, why couldn't Jane Hamsher find as many black and latino bloggers in Connecticut and give them a voice and visibility through her blog? Instead of creating a Liberman in black face, why was raising the profile of black bloggers in Connecticut out of the realm of her possibility?

If you answer that, you can answer why Jane Hamsher is included in this group as opposed to any black or latino bloggers.

Hat tip to Terrance and Page One Q.

U P D A T E :
Assholes like me have a hard time articulating emotions. The father of my children, blog bless him, knows this. He has pointed out that there are more than a few people on that picture who I would consider not just my blogspace but my meatspace friends as well. There's Jessica and Barbara and Jeralynn. I actually like Peter and respect his writing as well as Aravosis, Duncan and others. Which is why this is so disappointing.

Micah Sifry wrote, power is seductive. Power worked wonders here by blinding the bloggers in this meeting of the obvious. Which is why it's so disheartening to have to do the dirty work of pointing the obvious to them. It's frustrating for me to be the one to have to tell people, "yo, this is really toeing the line with racism". I am the last person to want to be put into that position but look into our archives and you'll see that I've had to do this more times than one. From rape to burqas to blogs, the infrastructuralizing of prejudice is all the rage.

There's more at Peter Daou explains why there are no black or latino bloggers in his Harlem meeting with Bill Clinton.


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dave's picture

"When I wrote Jane Hamsher is an idiot..."

Gee, I can't imagine why you weren't at the top of Peter Daou's list...


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liza's picture

If would have shown cojones

But that's not the point. The point is that he chose not to go with the obvious choice --the black and latino people on the top 100.

Why?


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Lindsay Beyerstein's picture

Disappointing

I am very disappointed that a Clinton confab in Harlem failed to included any black or latino bloggers. This kind of attitude does nothing to bolster my confidence in Hillary, politically or ethically.

I don't think Jane Hamsher is an idiot. Agreed, that blackface cartoon was in very bad taste and harmful to Lamont. To Jane's credit, she quickly admitted that the cartoon was inappropriate and apologized for her poor judgement and insensitivity.


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liza's picture

I'm sure she is a lovely person

I just want to know who are the latino and black bloggers in Connecticut. She was there. She has the connections. Why aren't they on her blog?


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darkblack's picture

Ms. Sabater,

Ms. Sabater,

I have read your column of Aug.3, and felt compelled as the creator of the graphic in question, upon this subsequent column, to respond.

You appeared in the above linked column to hold Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake responsible for some rather large baggage, viz.:

...who the fuck is Jane Hamsher that she thinks she can talk for the black people of Connecticut or for that matter, the whole country. Who the fuck is this woman trying to pass herself as the protector of African Americans?

But a cursory reading of the column in question shows a disconnect between graphic and content...What was implied in the graphic(and later restated explicitly by myself, then apologising without reservation if offence had been taken) had nothing to do with what Ms. Hamsher wrote.
At best, she was guilty of poor judgement in illustrative artwork, something which she did apologise for, if memory serves.

Therefore, your issue may indeed be with me alone, and your vitriol spouted at Ms. Hamsher to be, perhaps, ill-considered.

Some things for consideration...One commentator at FDL during the issue had a rather salient point, to wit, "...Blackface was done for the amusement of white audiences. Joementum’s recent efforts in the African American churches of Connecticut–amusing as they were–were an effort to gain black votes. The image was not so much offensive as it was inaccurate."

From a historical perspective, this is true...But, again, for the sake of clarity my goal was to portray someone flying under 'false colors' for the purpose of an group affinity not of mutual benefit, while a talisman used to invoke this power was blinded to their true machinations.

Whether this is racist, or not is subjective.
You may think it so, and that is your privilege. I do not.

Now, in this current column, you wrote that a compatriot:

scolded me for calling out this white woman's antics in the name of the black people of Connecticut.

Now, who are you?
While I respect your right to any and all opinions that you may deem worthy, I have my doubts that this is your perch to claim.

However, I am powerless to either halt or aid you in your quest for such a prize should one exist, as I may only speak and be responsible for myself, as do you, and indeed us all. Selah.

Finally, to conflate this issue with another, such as a lack of racial representation at an informal meeting, and include in your list of worthy alternative representatives some who have no interest in such meetings, while at the same time presuming to speak for others unnamed ('...I was insulted, as so other black bloggers') detracts from your worthy point regarding balance at the tables of power.

For the sake of solidarity, I hope that someday you will have the opportunity to express your opinions at such events, and may good fortune hasten the prize's arrival.

Yours,

darkblack


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and darkblack proves he still doesn't get it

apologising without reservation if offence had been taken

That's not an apology. That's trying to dodge responsibility for your actions. That's why people didn't take the "apology" as sincere.

"I'm sorry if you were upset" means "if you weren't upset, then I'm not sorry. The reason to be sorry for your fucking racist artwork isn't because it upset people. It's because it was fucking racist.


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darkblack's picture

Re: and darkblack proves he still doesn't get it

[quote=Chris Clarke]

apologising without reservation if offence had been taken

That's not an apology. That's trying to dodge responsibility for your actions. That's why people didn't take the "apology" as sincere.

"I'm sorry if you were upset" means "if you weren't upset, then I'm not sorry. The reason to be sorry for your fucking racist artwork isn't because it upset people. It's because it was fucking racist.[/quote]

dictionary.com

A‧pol‧o‧gy

1. A written or spoken expression of one's regret, remorse, or sorrow for having insulted, failed, injured, or wronged another
2. A defense, excuse, or justification in speech or writing, as for a cause or doctrine.

3. (initial capital letter, italics) a dialogue by Plato, centering on Socrates' defense before the tribunal that condemned him to death.
4.
An inferior specimen or substitute; makeshift: The tramp wore a sad apology for a hat.

...Go piddle your papers, pod


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Chris Clarke's picture

Yeah, that's persuasive.

It really isn't that hard to just say you were wrong to do it. Not saying it makes people think you don't feel like it was wrong, that you're only "apologizing" because you caught shit for it.

I mean come on. This is pretty basic stuff. We all make fun of people like Cheney for the "I apologize if you were offended" shit, and yet we're supposed to roll over when an alleged liberal does it?


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joe's picture

You have a point. Don't

You have a point. Don't clutter it up with extraneous charges. There ought to have been black bloggers at the meeting. Forget the rest-- at least when it comes to this point. Stay on message.


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liza's picture

I'm putting the old posts out there

because I have a hunch why Daou chose to not even think about me. I know he reads this blog Eye-wink

Have you read Pam Spaulding's sHillary posts? There are reasons for us to not be there ... and yet, Aravosis hasn't been that nice about Hillary either.

The point being, I don't have to be there. There are other colored bloggers (or members of the digital ethnorati, as I like to call them) who could have been there.

The first impression is the one that matters to a lot of people. This first impression is, well ... do I have to spell it out?


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