The CBC should just say no to Fox

There are likely going to be at least a dozen, probably more, debates between the Democratic Presidential contenders. One organization considering hosting such a debate is the Congressional Black Caucus, considered by many, including myself, to be the moral conscience of the United States Congress.

The CBC, however, is considering a partnership with Fox "News" to televise that debate, which is in turn raising hackles among activists.

Markos writes:

Now with the Nevada Democratic Party ditching propaganda outlet Fox News as a co-sponsor of its debate, attention is turning to the Congressional Black Caucus, which is choosing between CNN and Fox for its own debate. African American activists are putting pressure on the CBC to choose CNN.

Afro-netizen concurs:

In September of 2003 the Congressional Black Caucus co-sponsored a Democratic presidential candidate debate with Fox News at Baltimore HBCU, Morgan State University. Progressive-minded Blackfolk should have acted then, and we simply have no excuse not to act today towards keeping it (and any of its affiliated organizations) accountable.

How bad is the conservative cable channel, Fox, in describing Black Americans? Consider this video:


The Nevada Democratic Party recently pulled out of an agreement with Fox "News" to have that channel broadcast a Democratic debate, citing the vicious attacks made by its chairman, and lifelong hard-right republican activist, Roger Ailes, on Barack Obama and other Democrats, including John Edwards. The CBC, generally speaking an association of some of the finest men and women in American politics (note the William Jefferson exception), should follow on the trail blazed by Nevada. There is no reason for Democrats in general, and black Democrats in particular, to legitimize with their presence a network whose only purpose is to defame all of us.

Black activists, organized in a coalition called Color of Change, are calling for the CBC to partner with CNN in broadcasting the debate.

Black bloggers and media experts also joined the call for the CBC Institute to freeze out Fox from presidential debates. One of those experts is Benjamin Todd Jealous, former executive director of the National Newspaper Publishers Associations (NNPA), a 98-year old federation of more than 200 Black community newspapers.

“Fox has a long history of treating Black people unfairly,” said Jealous, “They are not a trusted news source for most Black Americans.” Chris Rabb, Founder/Chief Evangelist of Afro-Netizen.com – a top African American political blog– added, “We urge the CBC Institute to lead with integrity and to not make a deal with the devil.”

This is as close to a no-brainer as it's possible to get. As Ben Smith notes over at The Politico, "Fox intermittently gets into racially-charged spats, but I don't recall the CBC, an old-fashioned D.C. institution, ever being the focus of this kind of public campaign, and it'll be interesting to see how they respond.".

Interesting indeed.

[Update]: ThinkProgress reports that the CBC will partner with CNN. Good work.

[Update 2]: In the comments, ColorOfChange.org notes that the CBC is still talking to Fox. Not good.


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rwallnerny2007's picture

Is media segregation acceptable?

The problem is that this sort of thing can lead to eventual complete segregation of the media along partisan lines. If Democrats no longer want to debate on Fox News, then Republicans soon will not want to debate on CNN. Then not on PBS. The rest of the media will get divided up the same way.

Is this good for the country? It seems to me that we have entirely too much of a partisan slant in our news coverage as it is, without encouraging either party to boycott this network or that network. In terms of debates, what is important is not the editorial slant of the reporting, it is the viewership the network has. Fox News Channel, biased as it is, reaches many many millions of viewers. Including a hell of a lot of viewers in red states and swing states that democrats badly need to reach. If the CBC sponsored debate were on it, for an hour or ninety minutes, all those viewers would be getting uncensored liberal progressive democratic dialogue. Yes, the Fox people can editorialize in their biased way before and after the debate, but they would do that anyway.

When CBC or another liberal progressive group sponsoring a democratic debate boycotts Fox, they are more boycotting Fox's viewers than Fox's reporters. A boycott isn't going to drive Fox out of business or make them more progressive. It is just going to say, "we don't want to make our case to their viewers" This is not the right message to send. FNC gets huge viewership, much more now than CNN, so if a democrat debate can be put on there, fine and good. Better that than perpetuate media segregation on partisan lines, where those in red states watch some channels and blue states other channels, and neither side appears on the others' channels. That is not a world we should want.


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mole333's picture

Ummm...

Fox is a network where terrorism against American targets (NY Times Building, Coit Tower, etc.) is advocated. That warrents a boycott. It is a network that tells Jews to move to Israel if they don't think America is a Christian Country (displaying both ignorance of the Constitution AND anti-Semitism). THAT warrents a boycott. They lie, advocate violence and terrorism and routinely use hate speech.

I for one would refuse to have anything to do with such a network out of principle. You are welcome to associate with such people. But I wouldn't.


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Michael Bouldin's picture

Feh.

If you're now at the point where you're seriously comparing CNN or PBS to Faux, Wallner, then I can only suggest that you stop overdosing on stupid pills.

The problem with Faux is, simply put, that experience suggests they will do everything they can to put all of our candidates in an unfavorable light. After all, this is what Faux does every other day, and there's no reason to suspect that they'd behave any differently during a televised debate. I can easily imagine them asking Obama whether his middle name indicates support for terrorism, asking PanderBot about her husband's affairs, asking Edwards about his record as an ambulance-chaser (which is what they called him in 2004), asking Richardson about rumors regarding his affairs, and so on. That would be in line with the steady diet of anti-Progressive talking points that this channels viewers are fed every day, and anyone, such as you, who thinks that one debate controlled by the propaganda-feeders at Faux will suddenly convince their viewers to vote for our guys in a primary is just mind-numbingly stupid.

This is a no-brainer. Faux is a conservative, pro-R outlet dedicated to electing Rs. We do not need to assist their campaign to be seen as 'fair and balanced' by providing them with access to our candidates. Faux needs to be marginalized as the partisan propaganda outlet it is, and this is just one part of that.


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JJ Ross's picture

As usual

I find myself somewhere in the undefined middle between extremes on the issue of media bias, and what it will take for us to establish new common ground for discourse simply as American citizens rather than warring partisans. Smiling


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Michael Bouldin's picture

Well...

...I'd suggest that that middle ground is provided by the mainstream networks, such as PBS. There simply is no Progressive media equivalent to Faux, unless you count Air America Radio. And of course, they don't pretend to be 'fair and balanced', while Faux has that ludicrous claim as its slogan.

Sorry, but a CNN-Faux comparison is literally one between apples and hand grenades.


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JJ Ross's picture

PBS

and NPR really are in a class by themselves, I'd say, way above whatever anyone might include in "mainstream networks" otherwise including (sorry to say) CNN and NYT. Maybe that's the hope for the future, at that.

Or maybe Google will just take over everything and put it all to shame?


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NanceConfer's picture

Fox

is the equivalent of those rags at the supermarket checkout. Why the Dems even considered legitimizing Fox by debating there is beyond me. Some notion that they needed to pander to some imagined Fox audience that could be swayed to the Dem side. As if.

Nance


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Michael Bouldin's picture

Here's a column worth reading

...from Media Matters. Faux is not a legitimate news source.


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NanceConfer's picture

And I believe

the CBC has now dumped Fox in favor of CNN. Or maybe not -- http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/14/breaking-cbc-chooses-cnn-over-fox/

Nance


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rwallnerny2007's picture

mole said: "Fox is a network

mole said:

"Fox is a network where terrorism against American targets (NY Times Building, Coit Tower, etc.) is advocated. That warrents a boycott. It is a network that tells Jews to move to Israel if they don't think America is a Christian Country (displaying both ignorance of the Constitution AND anti-Semitism). "

Are you not taking the words of the likes of Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly, who are hired to have opinions like other op-ed people, and making the assumption that their words are somehow also automatically the beliefs of the Fox Network execs? That seems like faulty logic to me. CNN had Pat Buchanan and Robert Novak on ranting and raving for years, and if you took their words out of context, you could have quoted them in a piece like this and made the claim that *CNN*'s execs were right wing right?

FNC has an editorial bias but lets not specify that bias by assuming that all their execs are sean hannity bots and bill o'reilly bots


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