Minnesota Republican Norm Coleman: SHAMEFUL!
The Minnesota Senate race is a close one this year pitting Air America's Al Franken against shameful Bush-Republican Norm Coleman. Here are a couple of powerful videos from Al Franken's website showing how people view Norm Coleman.
First, Iraq War vet Sam Scott calls Norm Coleman's attacks "the same old shameful Washington politics" and tells Minnesotans why he's proud to stand with Al Franken.
Next, after the Star Tribune and KSTP-TV blasted ads from the Coleman campaign and the National Republican Senatorial Committee as false and misleading, the Al Franken for Senate campaign today released a new television ad featuring Minnesota women expressing their disgust and outrage at the depths to which Norm Coleman has sunk.
This is so typical of Republicans these days: lies, smears and no real solutions.
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Sure
Submitted by mole333 on 2 October 2008 - 6:21am.
A legit point, though a bit out of context when discussing an election in Minnesota.
I am sure the Iraqis who have suffered from Bush's illegal and ill-conceived invasion would agree with the American soldier's choice for Senate in this case. It is hard to see how they are relavent to an election in Minnesota except as the victims of the failed Republican foreign policy. Which is a legit point, of course, but not one that will sway many Americans safely at home. The plight of American soldiers and their families WILL however, be of great importance to Americans voting in America.
i guess ...
Submitted by yave begnet (not verified) on 2 October 2008 - 10:57pm.
... i'd say that elections for Senate in each state, including Minnesota, have foreign policy implications. I agree with you that U.S. voters care much more about U.S. troops than they do about Iraqi civilians.
But that is exactly the problem. So long as (1) U.S. politicians know they'll profit politically by putting the well-being of U.S. soldiers ahead of the well-being of the civilians whose countries we're occupying and (2) we are in such a position of relative power that we can invade and occupy sovereign countries without much consequence, then we'll have situations like we do now with Obama/Biden calling to ramp up the U.S. presence in Afghanistan. Since that's worked so well for us in Iraq and worked so well for the Soviets in the '80s. And where Palin can score points by saying "Obama said we were killing civilians in Afghanistan," a demonstrably true statement.
And Al Franken's USO tours and his political use of U.S. veterans feed that dynamic just as much as the flag-waving on the other side.
Agree/disagree
Submitted by mole333 on 3 October 2008 - 5:57am.
I agree that the failure to feel strongly about Iraqi civilian deaths is a moral failure on America's part...but it is also human nature and I don't think it will change.
I disagree that the USO tours, etc. is as bad...delivering an anti-war message WHILE supporting our troops is a powerful message and one that has been reaching our troops, turning THEM against the war. If there is one thing we learned from Vietnam it is that once a war becomes unpopular among our troops and military families, it will end sooner.
will democrats ever tire ...
... of wrapping themselves in the flag?
Could this country ever get to a place politically and culturally where one party could find success without propping up the war machine?
Not to minimize this young dude in the video's work and the risks he took for his communal group. But let's not forget the Iraqis who suffered when we invaded and who've suffered and died since then.